tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post3047790770366395080..comments2024-01-05T09:23:57.540-05:00Comments on Mr. Grudge: Writing Against Type: Challenge Your Writing StyleMichael J. Kannengieserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-85057043158965750972008-07-08T16:32:00.000-04:002008-07-08T16:32:00.000-04:00Hi J. Sherer,"But, you bring up a great point. Whe...Hi J. Sherer,<BR/><BR/><I>"But, you bring up a great point. When you're practicing. When you're honing your skills. When you're trying to find your voice and improve your writing...Experiment! That will enable to you stick to you core strategy when you release your work to the public, but in the meantime writing outside your norm allows you to grow!"</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, you got it! I experiment with different voices, plots, and styles until I find a groove, and then I feel that I have grown some. Thanks for the comment. -Mike.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-23772542286573899892008-07-02T00:23:00.000-04:002008-07-02T00:23:00.000-04:00I think learning, growing, and stretching oneself ...I think learning, growing, and stretching oneself is <I>very</I> critical. Excellent post. I'm currently writing a series about applying business principles to your writing. One of the issues there is really defining yourself for your target audience. Part of that definition means choosing a path and sticking to that pass.<BR/><BR/>But, you bring up a great point. When you're practicing. When you're honing your skills. When you're trying to find your voice and improve your writing...Experiment! That will enable to you stick to you core strategy when you release your work to the public, but in the meantime writing outside your norm allows you to grow!<BR/><BR/>Excellent points all around! Thanks, Mr. Grudge!J Shererhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07445215846016333736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-88515856438711006082008-03-07T10:45:00.000-05:002008-03-07T10:45:00.000-05:00Hi Peter,"Thank you for being a great teacher and ...Hi Peter,<BR/><I>"Thank you for being a great teacher and for letting others bend your ear more than once."</I><BR/><BR/>You can bend my ear anytime, mate. And, as for being a teacher, thank you; and, remember that that I learn from you as well. Have a great weekend and thanks for reading my post. -Mike.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-15184463041234043802008-03-07T10:43:00.000-05:002008-03-07T10:43:00.000-05:00Hi Jod{i},"As for my blog(s)-Its not about hiding ...Hi Jod{i},<BR/><I>"As for my blog(s)-Its not about hiding behind them, its about learning."</I><BR/><BR/>I agreew ith you as I have leanred so much about writing by being creative here. the writer I mentioned felt he was negelecting his other works by blogging more than working on his novel. I am guilty of that, yet the paradox is I feel have I better skills now that I write more with my blog than when I wrote in a vacuum with myu noevels. Thanks so much for your thoughful and insightful comment. -Mike.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-31309298138832483102008-03-06T23:34:00.000-05:002008-03-06T23:34:00.000-05:00Hi! I'm with Bob as I'm learning heaps from you as...Hi! I'm with Bob as I'm learning heaps from you as well plus the fact I also like your style.<BR/><BR/>I'll never get into writing fiction but with your help I will become a better blog writer. Touch Wood!<BR/><BR/>Thank you for being a great teacher and for letting others bend your ear more than once.<BR/><BR/>Take Care!<BR/>PeterPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12097919387041286154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-75694530554148793722008-03-06T10:06:00.000-05:002008-03-06T10:06:00.000-05:00Hello!I agree all writers should venture out, good...Hello!<BR/>I agree all writers should venture out, good or bad and even down right ugly. Its part of that creativeness, its the learning curve and it keeps all that we do possess fresh and smooth.<BR/>Having written a few screenplays and edited a few, I have forced myself to venture off into worlds of dark comedies, dramas and even some funny stuff. Although I tend to be more in the drama aspect of film.<BR/>It is a craft in of itself- being able to switch roles and genres.<BR/>As for my blog(s)-Its not about hiding behind them, its about learning. Responses to me are fuel for writing. I am not one to throw out a screenplay I hesitate, as well as anything I want published. Paranoia? Mayhap. I have seen people use a peer to peer site and have their scripts stolen. That is off topic and other issues.<BR/>So I am very hestitant on putting my "real" writing out there, WHy have it published then if I am just going to sell it?<BR/>Huh...need to ponder that(I do)...<BR/>GREAT ARTICLE!Jod{i}https://www.blogger.com/profile/02671216315312938126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-1638542369807046462008-03-05T21:56:00.000-05:002008-03-05T21:56:00.000-05:00Hi Anna,That little quote has helped me an awful l...Hi Anna,<BR/>That little quote has helped me an awful lot with my writing. I am happy to share this with you. Thanks for reading. -Mike.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-56130885311850985722008-03-05T21:55:00.000-05:002008-03-05T21:55:00.000-05:00Hi Poetikat,It is a pleasure to have you on board ...Hi Poetikat,<BR/>It is a pleasure to have you on board with the Midnight Wanderers. I look forward to reading more of your work. We are a new group and the folks we have with us know are diverse and practice many styles of writing. There is a lot we can do together, and this is only the beginning. Thank you for stopping by here, and once again, welcome. -Mike.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-48358482846767569362008-03-05T21:52:00.000-05:002008-03-05T21:52:00.000-05:00Hi Paul,"Blogging will also influence this in term...Hi Paul,<BR/><I>"Blogging will also influence this in terms of structure and the speed with which I write, I think!"</I><BR/><BR/>I agree with you about blogging and its effect on one's writing. This space here has definitely allowed to to become more prolific, and to be a better technical writer as well. Bloggers are intelligent folks, very creative, and they know when someone is faking it. My voice is honest, I edit more judiciously, and I work harder than ever. It's great to have folks read your work, isn't it, Paul? Thank you very much. -Mike.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-21403813970700336372008-03-05T21:48:00.000-05:002008-03-05T21:48:00.000-05:00Hi Max,"Have you ever read Fernando Pessoa (a Port...Hi Max,<BR/><I>"Have you ever read Fernando Pessoa (a Portuguese poet)? He wrote some poems that were similar to your style (when he wrote under the pseudomyn of Álvaro Campos)..."</I><BR/><BR/>Thanks for the suggestion to read Alvaro Campos. I am always on the lookout for fine writing. Also, I agree whole heartedly with your assessment of my poems. I placed them here, unabashedly, to illustrate that I am willing to stretch myself to improve my writing. This sis practice, and your appraisal here is worth my effort. Thank you, Max. It is a pleasure having you here. -Mike.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-69306415963502921962008-03-05T20:51:00.000-05:002008-03-05T20:51:00.000-05:00Mike, "A good novel is not what you put into it......Mike, "A good novel is not what you put into it...it's what you take out of it..." - thank you, I will definitely remember this. Anna :)myonlyphotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07324578791902437827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-90430349675901226082008-03-05T17:59:00.000-05:002008-03-05T17:59:00.000-05:00Dear Mr. Grudge,Thank you for stopping by my blog ...Dear Mr. Grudge,<BR/>Thank you for stopping by my blog and for your warm welcome to the Society of Midnight Wanderers. I am pleased to be part of such a valuable group. I will take the opportunity to visit other members and hope that they will visit me and perhaps find something of interest.<BR/>Sincerely,<BR/>KatKat Mortensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16877694888419628533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-78142865340607569362008-03-05T15:34:00.000-05:002008-03-05T15:34:00.000-05:00This is sound advice, Mike, and it's worth being r...This is sound advice, Mike, and it's worth being reminded of every once in a while. I used to write a lot of poetry at one time, but once I stopped submitting to magazines (because I became over-critical and didn't think it was worth publishing anymore) I carried on with it as a discipline, just writing for myself, simply because I felt that it honed my prose and would have a positive impact on my short story and novel writing. And I believe it has worked in this respect. Blogging will also influence this in terms of structure and the speed with which I write, I think!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-41897447360543170372008-03-05T10:40:00.000-05:002008-03-05T10:40:00.000-05:00Hey Mike,I know exactly what you mean by this, I s...Hey Mike,<BR/><BR/>I know exactly what you mean by this, I struggle to keep my texts dynamic. I do not wish to write always in the same style, and about the same things (although I have one short story that I post every now and then)...<BR/><BR/>A Poem...let me check it out:<BR/>May 1985<BR/>Hmm, I am going to be honest here - it is not that bad, it is a bit gloomy though (the use of sad words like pauper, empty, leaky souls, immorality). You needed to improve the technique a bit, however the talent was latent...congratulations, I liked it!<BR/><BR/>March 2008<BR/>Much better indeed, although it needs a bit of work still (in order to respect so poetry rules). But the general idea of it is brilliant, Mike; congrats *bowing*!<BR/><BR/>Have you ever read Fernando Pessoa (a Portuguese poet)? He wrote some poems that were similar to your style (when he wrote under the pseudomyn of Álvaro Campos)...<BR/><BR/>CheersMax Coutinhohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588149349270422294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-56406565193583334632008-03-05T10:08:00.000-05:002008-03-05T10:08:00.000-05:00Hi Anna,"I find myself writing at times, and the b...Hi Anna,<BR/><BR/><I>"I find myself writing at times, and the best comes when I don't think much, just write - but then I have to do lot of editing..."</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, that is the key, editing. I often think that writing is easy. The dirty work comes when you have to edit. I read a quote somewhere, and it is not mine: <BR/><BR/><B>"A good novel is not what you put into it...it's what you take out of it..."</B><BR/><BR/>Food for thought. Thanks, Anna, for your kind compliments about my poems. I still think my poetry is dreadful. Have a great day. -Mike.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-62407872574484850932008-03-04T22:53:00.000-05:002008-03-04T22:53:00.000-05:00Mike, this is really nice post, and quite encourag...Mike, this is really nice post, and quite encouraging. I find myself writing at times, and the best comes when I don't think much, just write - but then I have to do lot of editing, lol. Thanks for sharing this with us, and your poems are amazing. Everytime I show up here I get to see amazing works of yours. Anna :)myonlyphotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07324578791902437827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-19093475501899243202008-03-04T22:12:00.000-05:002008-03-04T22:12:00.000-05:00Hi Bob,I am glad you found my blog, and I am happy...Hi Bob,<BR/>I am glad you found my blog, and I am happy I found yours too. I have some catching up to do at "Black Holes & Astrostuff." It's been a few days. Thanks Bob. -Mike.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-14268668147413805922008-03-04T22:10:00.000-05:002008-03-04T22:10:00.000-05:00Hi Jack,Thanks for your kind words about my poems....Hi Jack,<BR/>Thanks for your kind words about my poems. I am glad you liked them. I know many, many actors as I work in a performing arts college. They will take any work they can get. The more successful they become, the more comfortable they are to do the same type of work. With writers, especially bloggers whose goal is to write, changing up one's style for experience certainly helps. What would I do if I met someone who asks me to write a movie script? Should I say I never wrote one? No, I tell him that I know the format and I am an established fiction writer. It is true, I practice writing scripts because if my novels ever get published and someone wants to film it, I can step in and write the script. Writing is a tool, a craft, and in the same way that it is helpful for a carpenter to build a house, he should be able to make furniture as well. Thanks jack. -Mike.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-19528497137894781012008-03-04T22:04:00.000-05:002008-03-04T22:04:00.000-05:00Hi Francis,"I also completely agree with you on th...Hi Francis,<BR/><BR/><I>"I also completely agree with you on the overall subject ... people get caught up in a comfort zone and that leads to stagnation."</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, I was going for the idea of a comfort zone which writer's can fall into. That's what I was doing and I wrote my "re-statement of purpose" the other day. Thanks for your kind assessment of my poems. -Mike.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-40699117006721025282008-03-04T22:01:00.000-05:002008-03-04T22:01:00.000-05:00Hi Teeny Poet,"Feel free to post some of your work...Hi Teeny Poet,<BR/><BR/><I>"Feel free to post some of your works on my poetry site that I started. It would be an honor."</I><BR/><BR/>Thank you for your generous initiation, and thank you for stopping by to read. -Mike.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-58662015253512838372008-03-04T21:59:00.000-05:002008-03-04T21:59:00.000-05:00Hi JD,"...See? Just throw it out there. How did yo...Hi JD,<BR/><I>"...See? Just throw it out there. How did you feel when writing the poem? Bet it felt great."</I><BR/><BR/>It felt awkward and pretentious, lol. Really, I think all of you are too kind. My poetry is not very good. But, I appreciate your kind words. Thanks JD. -Mike.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-39371907072191436142008-03-04T21:57:00.000-05:002008-03-04T21:57:00.000-05:00Hi Kathy,"Mike, you do as well with poetry as with...Hi Kathy,<BR/><I>"Mike, you do as well with poetry as with your fiction. It's great to see this side of your writing and I look forward to more of it."</I><BR/><BR/>I think you are too kind...Kathy. My poetry is novice, at best. Thank you. Your interview with the dog was brilliant. I took away a new word from that piece, "beagley." You're funny, definitely funny. Thanks Kathy. -Mike.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-55528716781751544452008-03-04T21:37:00.000-05:002008-03-04T21:37:00.000-05:00Hi Footiam,There's a lot to be said about stepping...Hi Footiam,<BR/>There's a lot to be said about stepping back from your work. Good point. Thanks.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-38391686795526238352008-03-04T21:35:00.000-05:002008-03-04T21:35:00.000-05:00Hi Swubird,"I like this new stuff your posting - l...Hi Swubird,<BR/><I>"I like this new stuff your posting - lessons we can all benefit from."</I><BR/><BR/>This post and the recent ones like it are a return to my early days of Mr. Grudge as a writer's blog. My re-statement of purpose the other day was my determination to get back to my roots and tackle the issues of writing and not simply prattle on about stories from my past. I am glad you like these articles. If you go to the archives here on my blog, look back to around September of 2007 and begin there, as I have many more articles like this one. Thanks.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36188871.post-39280898469655636722008-03-04T21:30:00.000-05:002008-03-04T21:30:00.000-05:00Hi Winter,"I liked the poetry BTW. The rhythm and ...Hi Winter,<BR/><BR/><I>"I liked the poetry BTW. The rhythm and nuances have a nice feel to them. I don't think you're as rusty as you think at this.</I><BR/><BR/>Your vote of confidence here is encouraging and means a lot. Thanks for your kind words. Let me know how your project works out. -Mike.Michael J. Kannengieserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260343556851550757noreply@blogger.com